For myself the constant grind of busywork, meeting attendance and just not fitting into the norm. I run my own business and trying to keep up with everything became too much after a while. Am the type that gives my all when I decide to do something which led to suicidal depression and burn out. Just when I was ready to examine spiritual matters again a good friend of mine that had a similar experience shed me some light on TTATT and followed up with research finding Beroean Pickets, Parimeno and Jordly.com which confirmed what I had always suspected.
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What was your eye opening moment?
by WasOnceBlind inif you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
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Do you consider this site Godly or Ungodly
by Truthexplorer inover the years, i have seen a change in heart with the country i grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality.
a strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years.
i have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways.
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How many times were you told, "You Just Don't Qualify Yet to be an Elder"
by John Aquila inyou think it's the holy spirit that appoints the elders, at least that's what new jw males are told.
the culture within the organization dictates to all young male jehovah's witnesses that unless you are an elder, you will not get the sultry, passionate- brunette, the voluptuous, curvaceous,- blond, or the seductive, erotic, red headed-vamp..
so unaware of the social forces that are shaping your mind, you succumb to the dictum issued by the governing body to conform to the structure already in place- if you want to be successful.
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Return to Jehovah Photo
by naazira inthis picture is in the new publication from this year's convention, titled "return to jehovah".
part 1the lost one i will search for.
personally, the animal looks scared of the shepherd.
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All I could think is that the 'shepherd' looks reasonably fit and good looking.....
Most elders I served with were pushing 300 lbs. and alcoholics....
Enh, just details... LOL
I noticed lots of obese people in the org, more so than in regular society.
Is this fairly common though out the US / Canada ?
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How many times were you told, "You Just Don't Qualify Yet to be an Elder"
by John Aquila inyou think it's the holy spirit that appoints the elders, at least that's what new jw males are told.
the culture within the organization dictates to all young male jehovah's witnesses that unless you are an elder, you will not get the sultry, passionate- brunette, the voluptuous, curvaceous,- blond, or the seductive, erotic, red headed-vamp..
so unaware of the social forces that are shaping your mind, you succumb to the dictum issued by the governing body to conform to the structure already in place- if you want to be successful.
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John, reminds me of the episode where it was our book study's turn to clean the toilets and the elder that had that book study was busy with the others in the meeting room. At one point I must have gotten irritated and slammed the bucket around a little ( ajoining wall to meeting room ) as he came out and explained he had had business to take care of and would help after, which was just a quick token wipe down of counter tops.
To be honest when I was new it felt like a priviledge at first.
I was on the fast track to being a MS within the same year following my baptism, what burnt me out in the end was the weekday night meetings, they just became too much for me to handle after a while. Just the thought of one now gives me anxiety. I recall that whenever it was announced that the MS and elders had to gather for another meeting on a different night it would make me think of never being able to step up to the plate so to speak. Glad it didn't happen.
Oh and yes being single myself the get a position and have access to a hot sister for marriage was very much out there and in vogue. What a weird bunch to say the least, all due to a bunch of men in NY fancying themselves as God's mouthpiece.
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Infuriating Elder recorded on JWStruggle
by dhlpcjw inhelp from a loving jehovah's witness elder part 1. this elder is clearly out of touch with all emotion period as this poor girl pours her heart out to him.
can these untrained, unloving, pharisees possibly be fit to represent a god of love?
a god of anything?
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I called an elder once when I was severely distressed, as in suicidal. Sounded exactly like this guy on the other end of the phone coupled with an explanation on how he was putting some honey in his tea when I had called him and that it was good and hot. All this coupled with sounds of exhaling appreciatively whilst drinking it. Either he was being passive aggressive in an effort to get back at me for perceived wrongs or just plain dumb and clueless as to the situation. The latter being the most likely. True incompetence. -
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Jehovah's Witnesses 2015 Regional Convention Saturday PM experience parents shunning children
by Watchtower-Free inclip 3 minutes long.
ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children
it was the missed association with family that brought them back.
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60 is still young 3rdGen, try some speed walking and slow jogging with some weight lifting. 60 is today's 50 !
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"The Apostle" Paul & "The governing body" He paid not attention to them
by LAWHFol inmany witnesses view the structure of the organization, and the authority of the governing body , as a model of the first century congregation..if the governing body is, indeed structured similarly to the 12 apostles.
paul provides a good example of how we need to view men such as these.. he admonishes christians to reject any teaching that is different from god's word gal 1:8 "but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.".
he shows by his words that the first century leaders, meant little to him.. 2 cor 11:5 "indeed, i consider that i am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.".
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Great thread, I've been looking fo info on this. And thanks Doug I downloaded your essays in .pdf will read them later.
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Are Elders experts on the Bible? Are they spirtually qualified men?
by John Aquila inhow many times have elders read their bible in its entirety?
these are the leaders that give counsel to married couples, to teenagers, to single girls and single boys on everything from marriage, education, sex, association, dress, and recreation..
how well do they know their bible?
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Good post James, I strive towards a combination of both : Bible reading - searching for knowledge all the while appreciating nature and thanking the creator everyday for beauty in nature. I truly believe he will make things right one day in his due time. If I live to see it it will be thanks to Christ. -
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How do you feel when you see the Witnesses in the door to door work? Angry, Sad, or dumbfounded?
by John Aquila inim here sitting and listening to youtube video songs and practicing on my guitar and checking out posts on jwn.
and one more thing, im seeing the spanish jws going door to door in my street.
they work my street every single week.
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I'm in a French area with lots of former Catholics that have church baggage and culture and I do find that it creeps into the congregations. Anyhow I feel that that many of them are way more open and zealous for the WT's indoctrination than their Anglophone counterparts. Having tried it out for a couple years and failing miserably I find that hey have more 'rules' and are overly regimented, just not my cup of tea. There are some great people in there for sure, just that that are mislead by the overzealous leadership and the culture.